[dart-misc] Dart Language and Library Newsletter (2017-11-24)

['Florian Loitsch' via Dart Misc]

Github link for this newsletter:
https://github.com/dart-lang/sdk/blob/master/docs/newsletter/20171124.md

Earlier newsletters:
https://github.com/dart-lang/sdk/tree/master/docs/newsletter

Dart Language and Library Newsletter

Welcome to the Dart Language and Library Newsletter.

It is with some regret that I'm announcing the end of the Dart Language and
Library Newsletter (at least written by me). Since Monday I am not on the
language team anymore, and it would be unfair and manipulative to continue
discussing language features. As a member of the Dart team, public comments
and discussions do set the tone and raise expectations. While the
newsletter usually avoided promises, I generally talked about features that
I, as the tech lead, had influence over. I want to give the new team the
same opportunity and give them the room to set their own direction.

Writing the newsletters took me some time, but the positive feedback kept
me going. Thank you all for the kind words I received.

[Marcello Dias]

Are you leaving google,or are you leaving the Dart team?
Really sorry,I liked your videos also.

Marcello

2017-11-24 14:28 GMT-02:00 'Florian Loitsch' via Dart Misc <

Github link for this newsletter: https://github.com/dart-lang/
sdk/blob/master/docs/newsletter/20171124.md
Earlier newsletters: https://github.com/dart-lang/sdk/tree/master/
docs/newsletter
Dart Language and Library Newsletter
Welcome to the Dart Language and Library Newsletter.
It is with some regret that I'm announcing the end of the Dart Language
and Library Newsletter (at least written by me). Since Monday I am not on
the language team anymore, and it would be unfair and manipulative to
continue discussing language features. As a member of the Dart team, public
comments and discussions do set the tone and raise expectations. While the
newsletter usually avoided promises, I generally talked about features that
I, as the tech lead, had influence over. I want to give the new team the
same opportunity and give them the room to set their own direction.
Writing the newsletters took me some time, but the positive feedback kept
me going. Thank you all for the kind words I received.
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['Florian Loitsch' via Dart Misc]

I will still be on the Dart team; just not on the language/library team.
Thanks. I plan to do more presentations in the future.

Post by Marcello Dias
Are you leaving google,or are you leaving the Dart team?
Really sorry,I liked your videos also.
Marcello
2017-11-24 14:28 GMT-02:00 'Florian Loitsch' via Dart Misc <

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https://github.com/dart-lang/sdk/blob/master/docs/newsletter/20171124.md
https://github.com/dart-lang/sdk/tree/master/docs/newsletter
Dart Language and Library Newsletter
Welcome to the Dart Language and Library Newsletter.
It is with some regret that I'm announcing the end of the Dart Language
and Library Newsletter (at least written by me). Since Monday I am not on
the language team anymore, and it would be unfair and manipulative to
continue discussing language features. As a member of the Dart team, public
comments and discussions do set the tone and raise expectations. While the
newsletter usually avoided promises, I generally talked about features that
I, as the tech lead, had influence over. I want to give the new team the
same opportunity and give them the room to set their own direction.
Writing the newsletters took me some time, but the positive feedback kept
me going. Thank you all for the kind words I received.
--
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[Marcello Dias]

Glad to hear that.

Marcello

2017-11-24 15:28 GMT-02:00 'Florian Loitsch' via Dart Misc <

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I will still be on the Dart team; just not on the language/library team.
Thanks. I plan to do more presentations in the future.

Post by Marcello Dias
Are you leaving google,or are you leaving the Dart team?
Really sorry,I liked your videos also.
Marcello
2017-11-24 14:28 GMT-02:00 'Florian Loitsch' via Dart Misc <

Github link for this newsletter: https://github.com/dart-lang/
sdk/blob/master/docs/newsletter/20171124.md
Earlier newsletters: https://github.com/dart-lang/sdk/tree/master/
docs/newsletter
Dart Language and Library Newsletter
Welcome to the Dart Language and Library Newsletter.
It is with some regret that I'm announcing the end of the Dart Language
and Library Newsletter (at least written by me). Since Monday I am not on
the language team anymore, and it would be unfair and manipulative to
continue discussing language features. As a member of the Dart team, public
comments and discussions do set the tone and raise expectations. While the
newsletter usually avoided promises, I generally talked about features that
I, as the tech lead, had influence over. I want to give the new team the
same opportunity and give them the room to set their own direction.
Writing the newsletters took me some time, but the positive feedback
kept me going. Thank you all for the kind words I received.
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[Anatoly Pulyaevskiy]

Thanks Florian! I really enjoyed reading this newsletters! Good luck on your new position!

Sent from my iPhone

Post by Marcello Dias
Glad to hear that.
Marcello

Post by 'Florian Loitsch' via Dart Misc
I will still be on the Dart team; just not on the language/library team.
Thanks. I plan to do more presentations in the future.

Post by Marcello Dias
Are you leaving google,or are you leaving the Dart team?
Really sorry,I liked your videos also.
Marcello

Github link for this newsletter: https://github.com/dart-lang/sdk/blob/master/docs/newsletter/20171124.md
Earlier newsletters: https://github.com/dart-lang/sdk/tree/master/docs/newsletter
Dart Language and Library Newsletter
Welcome to the Dart Language and Library Newsletter.
It is with some regret that I'm announcing the end of the Dart Language and Library Newsletter (at least written by me). Since Monday I am not on the language team anymore, and it would be unfair and manipulative to continue discussing language features. As a member of the Dart team, public comments and discussions do set the tone and raise expectations. While the newsletter usually avoided promises, I generally talked about features that I, as the tech lead, had influence over. I want to give the new team the same opportunity and give them the room to set their own direction.
Writing the newsletters took me some time, but the positive feedback kept me going. Thank you all for the kind words I received.
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[tatumizer-v0.2]

Florian, I was looking forward to your next posts, and suddenly such a
disappointment :(
Now I feel guilty for my critical comments (which were sometimes unfair) :(
Please come back!

['Florian Loitsch' via Dart Misc]

Post by tatumizer-v0.2
Florian, I was looking forward to your next posts, and suddenly such a
disappointment :(
Now I feel guilty for my critical comments (which were sometimes unfair) :(

Don't worry :)
I can take some critical comments. In fact, I found many discussions
productive. (Doesn't mean we would always agree, but that's generally rare
for language/library discussions :)

Please come back!
For now, Lasse and Leaf will take over. The language/library will thus be
in good hands. We will see if I eventually find my way back into
language/library design.

I don't think I will stay completely silent. Hopefully I will manage to
write a blog post from time to time. It will definitely not be as often as
the newsletter, though.

Thanks for your support.

Post by tatumizer-v0.2
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[Danny Tuppeny]

Good luck on the new team and thanks for all the newsletters! I do hope
they'll continue after your move - I appreciate they must take much time
but they've been a great insight into what's going on (and often spawned
interesting discussions) :-)

On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 at 16:29 'Florian Loitsch' via Dart Misc <

Post by 'Florian Loitsch' via Dart Misc
https://github.com/dart-lang/sdk/blob/master/docs/newsletter/20171124.md
https://github.com/dart-lang/sdk/tree/master/docs/newsletter
Dart Language and Library Newsletter
Welcome to the Dart Language and Library Newsletter.
It is with some regret that I'm announcing the end of the Dart Language
and Library Newsletter (at least written by me). Since Monday I am not on
the language team anymore, and it would be unfair and manipulative to
continue discussing language features. As a member of the Dart team, public
comments and discussions do set the tone and raise expectations. While the
newsletter usually avoided promises, I generally talked about features that
I, as the tech lead, had influence over. I want to give the new team the
same opportunity and give them the room to set their own direction.
Writing the newsletters took me some time, but the positive feedback kept
me going. Thank you all for the kind words I received.
--
For other discussions, see https://groups.google.com/a/dartlang.org/
For HOWTO questions, visit http://stackoverflow.com/tags/dart
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[Andrew Skalkin]

Florian, I'm sorry to see you go, I was enjoying reading your newsletters.
Hopefully you'll stay in touch with the community, and looking forward to
your new presentations :)

Post by 'Florian Loitsch' via Dart Misc
https://github.com/dart-lang/sdk/blob/master/docs/newsletter/20171124.md
https://github.com/dart-lang/sdk/tree/master/docs/newsletter
Dart Language and Library Newsletter
Welcome to the Dart Language and Library Newsletter.
It is with some regret that I'm announcing the end of the Dart Language
and Library Newsletter (at least written by me). Since Monday I am not on
the language team anymore, and it would be unfair and manipulative to
continue discussing language features. As a member of the Dart team, public
comments and discussions do set the tone and raise expectations. While the
newsletter usually avoided promises, I generally talked about features that
I, as the tech lead, had influence over. I want to give the new team the
same opportunity and give them the room to set their own direction.
Writing the newsletters took me some time, but the positive feedback kept
me going. Thank you all for the kind words I received.

[Milan Zimmermann]

As many said already, this will be missed. I hope for you to like your new
role and for us having read the language newsletter someone will continue
with equivalent clarity and love. Best, Milan

Post by 'Florian Loitsch' via Dart Misc
https://github.com/dart-lang/sdk/blob/master/docs/newsletter/20171124.md
https://github.com/dart-lang/sdk/tree/master/docs/newsletter
Dart Language and Library Newsletter
Welcome to the Dart Language and Library Newsletter.
It is with some regret that I'm announcing the end of the Dart Language
and Library Newsletter (at least written by me). Since Monday I am not on
the language team anymore, and it would be unfair and manipulative to
continue discussing language features. As a member of the Dart team, public
comments and discussions do set the tone and raise expectations. While the
newsletter usually avoided promises, I generally talked about features that
I, as the tech lead, had influence over. I want to give the new team the
same opportunity and give them the room to set their own direction.
Writing the newsletters took me some time, but the positive feedback kept
me going. Thank you all for the kind words I received.

[a***@gmail.com]

Florian,

I and my team have enjoyed the newsletter. we just converted our angularJS
(v1.5.6) project to AngularDart and these have been illuminating and
thought provoking.

We will miss this. Thank you so much for your efforts and good luck on your
next project/efforts.

Post by Milan Zimmermann
As many said already, this will be missed. I hope for you to like your new
role and for us having read the language newsletter someone will continue
with equivalent clarity and love. Best, Milan

Github link for this newsletter: https://github.com/dart-lang/s
dk/blob/master/docs/newsletter/20171124.md
Earlier newsletters: https://github.com/dart-lang/sdk/tree/master/do
cs/newsletter
Dart Language and Library Newsletter
Welcome to the Dart Language and Library Newsletter.
It is with some regret that I'm announcing the end of the Dart Language
and Library Newsletter (at least written by me). Since Monday I am not on
the language team anymore, and it would be unfair and manipulative to
continue discussing language features. As a member of the Dart team, public
comments and discussions do set the tone and raise expectations. While the
newsletter usually avoided promises, I generally talked about features that
I, as the tech lead, had influence over. I want to give the new team the
same opportunity and give them the room to set their own direction.
Writing the newsletters took me some time, but the positive feedback kept
me going. Thank you all for the kind words I received.

--
For other discussions, see https://groups.google.com/a/dartlang.org/
For HOWTO questions, visit http://stackoverflow.com/tags/dart
To file a bug report or feature request, go to http://www.dartbug.com/new
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[Tobe Osakwe]

Thanks so much for all your contributions. It will not be forgotten!

Post by tatumizer-v0.2
Florian,
I and my team have enjoyed the newsletter. we just converted our angularJS
(v1.5.6) project to AngularDart and these have been illuminating and
thought provoking.
We will miss this. Thank you so much for your efforts and good luck on
your next project/efforts.
On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 2:14 AM, Milan Zimmermann <

Post by Milan Zimmermann
As many said already, this will be missed. I hope for you to like your
new role and for us having read the language newsletter someone will
continue with equivalent clarity and love. Best, Milan

Post by 'Florian Loitsch' via Dart Misc
https://github.com/dart-lang/sdk/blob/master/docs/newsletter/20171124.md
https://github.com/dart-lang/sdk/tree/master/docs/newsletter
Dart Language and Library Newsletter
Welcome to the Dart Language and Library Newsletter.
It is with some regret that I'm announcing the end of the Dart Language
and Library Newsletter (at least written by me). Since Monday I am not on
the language team anymore, and it would be unfair and manipulative to
continue discussing language features. As a member of the Dart team, public
comments and discussions do set the tone and raise expectations. While the
newsletter usually avoided promises, I generally talked about features that
I, as the tech lead, had influence over. I want to give the new team the
same opportunity and give them the room to set their own direction.
Writing the newsletters took me some time, but the positive feedback
kept me going. Thank you all for the kind words I received.

--
For other discussions, see https://groups.google.com/a/dartlang.org/
For HOWTO questions, visit http://stackoverflow.com/tags/dart
To file a bug report or feature request, go to http://www.dartbug.com/new
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[robin john]

Thank you Florian.
All your newsletter contribution are never unnoticed,
there are many many non-vocal subscribers like me who find your regular
writings useful.
I only hope the dart dev community continues to grow..
and for that, this group and the master branch SDK on github is
instrumental.

Cheers, Robin

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Dart Language and Library Newsletter
Welcome to the Dart Language and Library Newsletter.
It is with some regret that I'm announcing the end of the Dart Language
and Library Newsletter (at least written by me). Since Monday I am not on
the language team anymore, and it would be unfair and manipulative to
continue discussing language features. As a member of the Dart team, public
comments and discussions do set the tone and raise expectations. While the
newsletter usually avoided promises, I generally talked about features that
I, as the tech lead, had influence over. I want to give the new team the
same opportunity and give them the room to set their own direction.
Writing the newsletters took me some time, but the positive feedback kept
me going. Thank you all for the kind words I received.